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problems with subsections on mobile skin

Hi, I don't know who is the proper contact for these types of concerns. The subsections are not opening on the mobile skin. I've visited other wikia sites and those samples all work fine, it is just this one I've found that doesn 't work. I'm using Android 2.2 mobile device and have tried multiple browsers and they all fail.


Dkeefe3773 15:44, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Brandon Sanderson Blog Posts

Crossposting to all the listed admins.

I'm Brandon Sanderson's assistant. There's a problem with having Brandon's blog posts on your wiki.

All your content is labeled as being licensed under CC-BY-SA, but Brandon's blog posts must be copyright Dragonsteel Entertainment, LLC. Under ideal circumstances we don't have a problem with you mirroring certain posts on your wiki, but they must not be relicensed. Because if they are licensed CC-BY-SA, people can make a printed book of Brandon's blog posts and sell it on Barnes & Noble:

That is just not cool. The people making that book think it is legal because they got the text from your website, which says CC-BY-SA.

Please do something about this. We will contact Barnes & Noble separately, but the license needs to be cleared up on your site. If wikia terms don't allow material to be posted without being CC-BY-SA, please just link straight to Brandon's blog posts instead of mirroring.

I'm sorry that unscrupulous content scrapers made this necessary.

You can contact me on Twitter if you want to talk about anything.


Peter Ahlstrom (Not at TOKYOPOP anymore) 19:46, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Peter. I will make sure they are relinked to the originals, rather than mirrored. We don't have a choice with the Wikia licensing but no offense was intended. -- nae'blis 16:30, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Copyright info

Hello. I got an e-mail from Wikia in regards to our copyright issue. Since we have the author's permission, we're not violating Wikia's Terms of Use. While it is not something that Wikia likes to do, adding the copyright notice at the bottom of those pages is okay.

I also suggested that we set up one of our custom namespaces to hold of the interactions with fans and reports from fans. This would allow us to clearly differentiate between normal CC-BY-SA content and the copyrighted materials from the authors. The namespace has been suggested before here, by one of the users. I didn't think anything of it too much at the time, simply because we had the categories and we didn't have this copyright issue. If we went ahead with the namespace, there would be a few things we would need to decide, but we don't have to do that now.

Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS 21:27, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

I love the idea of using a separate namespace for either fanworks and/or real-world-interface stuff like that. No idea what to call it though... will think on it for a while. Feel free to open a discussion publicly somewhere if you like. -- nae'blis 05:18, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking of just calling the namespace "Reference" or something similar. ---- Willie - HtS 21:14, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

"Sources"? -- nae'blis 02:27, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Even better. :) There were two things we would have to decide on before we had the namespace created. First, would these pages be included in the page count and "Random page" function. From the e-mail I got, it seems these two are a packaged deal. If so, the new namespace would be marked as a "content namespace." Second, should the new namespace be reachable by the search function. Usually, if a new namespace is a "content namespace," they should be included in the normal search function. I would answer yes to both. I've already searched the database to see if any pages start with either of the intended names, and there aren't any, so that takes care of Wikia's last requirement. Let me know and I'll get in contact with Wikia to set this up. Also, it should be fairly simple to move the pages once the new namespace is up and running. One of the recent updates to the software made that whole process much simpler. :) ---- Willie - HtS 04:49, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

If you don't have any objections, I'll set up the "Sources" namespace here in a few days. I'll also look into redoing the one copyright notice we have, and creating any more that we would need for Robert Jordan's blogs and what not. I'll also try and piece together a policy on this so we can be very clear on what goes into the new namespace. Once the new namespace is up, I can also create a notification at the top. This will be like the ones on the top of talk pages or the ones on protected pages. Just something to remind users about the namespace's purpose. Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS 05:15, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

What about just 'Source:'? The plural sounds weird to me, compared to the other namespaces. Otherwise, go for it. -- nae'blis 11:48, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Will do. I also changed the {{Dragonsteel}} template. I haven't made the changes to the blog pages yet, though. It's on my list. :) ---- Willie - HtS 12:06, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Just letting you know almost all of the pages have been moved. There are two that I need to figure out. Something about a spam filter. Should be cleared up sometime today. All of the links should be cleared up soon, as well. Also, I've given some thought about a policy on the new namespace, but nothing in writing just yet. Any thoughts on that? I'm also going to go through all of the pages in the new namespace and try to clean them up a bit. ---- Willie - HtS 09:53, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Typos and redirects

Thanks for correcting those typos. I shouldn't edit right when I get up. Also, I saw what you did with the Emarin page. We have quite a few redirects. I seem to remember somewhere here that most redirects were fine. Are we still going that direction, or did I miss the reason behind this one? ---- Willie - HtS 03:02, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm only worried about this one because on some pages Emarin can actually be one person, and on others it's another. Usually it's totally clear when you've got two different people, but the brother is actually being impersonated here. -- nae'blis 03:19, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Display title changes

One of the recent updates to the wiki software now allows us to change the title of a page. Before this update, we could only change the capitalization of the first letter (see al'Thor, al'Vere, ect). Now, we can italicize. I've gone through and changed a lot of the pages (see saidin). I think I got them all. I'm trying to look into being able to change the title completly, but it hasn't worked so far. I was thinking of possibly making the titles of the chapter pages show the name of the chapter instead of just the subpage. Any thoughts? ---- Willie - HtS 09:41, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Update: The new {{DISPLAYTITLE}} works. It will work in all namespaces and it will be able to fully alter the display title. I'll go through and change the category pages. One of the guys on the community wiki suggested that we just remove the parent pagename from the chapter summaries (i.e. "Chapter 1" vs. The Eye of the World/Chapter 1) instead of putting the chapter name there to avoid confusion. I think that, because we have the chapter redirects and most of the links are mainly in the sidebar templates, we should be fine. Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS 07:06, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Let's try it with a book or two, and see what we think for a while. I'm dubious, because of things like the chapter(s) called "Saidin" and the article on saidin. -- nae'blis 15:55, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

So, The Eye of the World has been converted. I also was able to kind of have the best of both worlds. I was able to put the regular page name ("The Eye of the World/Prologue") under the title of the chapter and make it a bit smaller. This way, we have both the title and page name. This book's chapter titles also gives us a few titles that are the same as other articles, i.e. Dragonmount, Winternight, The Stag and Lion, Wisdom, Wolfbrother, ect. We also have one of the longer chapter titles (There is Neither Beginning Nor End) and it doesn't change anything or wrap around. Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS 12:19, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Looks great; nice work! Might add a bit more white space above the subtitle, though. -- nae'blis 19:39, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

This look better? ---- Willie - HtS 07:09, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Aye! -- nae'blis 04:12, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

TEoTW has been white spaced. Do we want to let this sit for a while to see what we think, or do we want to go the whole nine yards? ---- Willie - HtS 07:39, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

I think it looks good enopugh to proceed. Forgive my ignorance but I was looking through your contribs and can't find where this whitespace is controlled?? Light, but I'm out of practice... -- nae'blis 16:00, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

It is the double <br />. They're forced line breaks in html. I was just glad that they worked with the template. :) ---- Willie - HtS 01:09, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Another thing about these changes. Do we want to hide the backlink at the top of the subpages? ---- Willie - HtS 01:30, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

So, the chapter summary display title changes are going good. Something else I wanted to ask you though. We have these pages. Some of them get away from the "normal" type of disambiguation that is defined at Wikipedia and on other wikis. In going through those last week, and in going through the chapters, I've found about sixty more that could be added. Five of those I would have to check again, but as for the rest of them, they are keeping in the same vein as the rest that we have. Most of them would actually be more chapter disambiguations than regular ones. I know that this might seem to be a lot. Also, a number of the target pages might have two or three different hatlinks, along the lines of the Winespring Water page.

I think, in our own little corner of the universe, whatever we define as disambiguation is fine, whether that's the traditional route or more expanded, like what we already have. I'm all in favor of them, but I wanted to get a second opinion. Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS 09:50, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm generally a fan of the expanded definition - I'm responsible for many of the already existing pages. I think our usage is fine and recommend going forward with the other sixty. It may also make automating link-fixes later, easier... (checking to see if a page is linking to a disambiguation page). -- nae'blis 16:28, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. Need another opinion. On Mountain and Road, I didn't list each individual mountain and road, because we have category pages for that. However, should each page be linked back to the disambiguation page? Also, what about category pages? Should they get disambiguation links? I would say yes to both. Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS

Others > Category:Mountains seems plenty clear to me after a few seconds' scan. Are you asking if Illian Road should also link to the Road page, or if Road should list Illian Road individually? if the former, yes. If the latter, no, as it needlessly duplicates the category work. -- nae'blis 15:34, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia links and templates

Hello. In going through the pages, I have noticed that there are some pages that link to Wikipedia using the {{Wikipedia}} template. Is there a reason for those anymore? I think that the wiki can "stand on its own," so to speak. Let me know what you think. ---- Willie - HtS 12:48, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Character alphabetizing

Just to let you know, I was able to get a work-around so that we can have both. Let me know if you have any questions. ---- Willie - HtS 05:47, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Pillow friends

Noticed you made this page in 2005. Do you think it could be possibly to have a Category:Lesbians for consolidating character pages for those who have had 'pillow friend' or otherwise relationships described in the books? It extends beyond Aes Sedai into the Maidens of the Spear/Sword as well and could be interesting to do a head count. I don't mean for the category to describe exclusive homosexual attraction (or even necessarily preference) just that there is confirmed and/or alleged history of behaviour or thought for them. +Yc 15:08, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

editing restriction

Hi Nae'blis,

are you still active on this wiki? I'd like to ask an admin to restrict editing of this wiki to only registered users. It's a security concern. Could you help me in that?

Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year!


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